National editor Callum Baird joins Paul Kavanagh, aka the Wee Ginger Dug, for another edition of the Dugcast.

This week's episode, of course, has to talk about the incredible All Under One Banner march for independence in Edinburgh, and the record-breaking turnout.

They also respond to criticism of The National's front page – which described a "media blackout" of the march.

Meanwhile, the odds of a Brexit deal being reached have apparently increased. But is this really the case? And does Boris even want a deal?

We're also looking ahead, with SNP conference set to kick off this weekend. The National has all the coverage you'll need... and here, we're talking about what to expect from the First Minister on an independence referendum.

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